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Thanks Gary Collier

MY NAME IS PAUL ORGILL. MY FAMILY CAN ALSO TRACE THEIR LINE BACK TO ADAM. I FOUND YOUR PAGE, AND THINK THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT MUST HAVE GONE INTO IT ARE AMAZING. MY FATHER IS PROBLABLY THE MAN WHOSE ADDRESS WILL APPEAR WITH THIS, BUT IF IT IS AT ALL POSSIBLE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU E-MAIL ME AND TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE ORGILL FAMILY AND YOUR LIFE. MY ADDRESS IS PMO.ALPHA.RED@JUNO.COM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR TIME AND EFFORT
SINCERELY,
PAUL MILES ORGILL

Curtis Orgill <punapaluni@WORLD$>

1 Adam
2 Seth
3 Enos
4 Cainan
5 Malaleel
6 Jared
7 Enoch
8 Mathusala
9 Lamech
10 Noah
11 Shem
12 Arphaxad
13 Cainan
14 Sala
15 Heber
16 Phalec
17 Ragau
18 Saruch
19 Nachor
20 Thara
21 Abraham
22 Isaac
23 Jacob
24 Judah
25 Phares
26 Esrom
27 Aram
28 Aminadab
29 Naasson
30 Salmon
31 Boaz
32 Obed
33 Jesse
34 David
35 Nathan
36 Mattatha
37 Menan
38 Melea
39 Eliakim
40 Jonan
41 Joseph
42 Juda
43 Simeon
44 Levi
45 Matthat
46 Jorim
47 Eliezer
48 Jose
49 Er
50 Elmoda
m 51 Cosam
52 Addi
53 Melchi
54 Neri
55 Salathie
l 56 Zorababel
57 Rhesa
58 Joanna
59 Juda
60 Joseph
61 Semei
62 Mattahias
63 Maath
64 Nagge
65 Esli
66 Naum
67 Amos
68 Mattahias, dau. Simon the Just
69 Joseph
70 Johanna
71 Melchi
72 Leni
73 Matthat
74 Joseph of Arimethea
75 Ann
76 Penardim
77 Antenar
78 Caradoc
79 Cyllin
80 Coel or Coilus
81 Athildes
82 Cladamir IV
83 Farabert, renewed ancient league with Germans
84 Sunno, fought with Romans & Gaul
85 Hilderic
86 Bartheus
87 Cladius III
88 Walter
89 Dagobert
90 Genebald, Duke of East Franks
91 Dagobert
92 Cladius I
93 Marcamir I
94 Pharamand, Kind of Franks
95 Cladius
96 Sigimerus
97 Ferreolus
98 Ausbertus
99 Arnoldus
100 St. Arnulf, Bishop of Metz
101 Anchisus
102 Pepin II, of Heristal
103 Charles of Martel
104 Pepin III, the short
105 Charlemagne
106 Ingram
107 Irmigardis
108 Priincess Adelheid
109 Robert I, King of France
110 Hugh the Great
111 Hugh Capet, King of France
112 Robert of France
113 Henry I of France
114 Prince Hugh Magnus
115 Esabel DeWermandois
116 Elizabeth de Belmon
117 Robert the Consul
118 Maud DeGloucester
119 Hugh DeMeschines of Kyveliack
120 Lady Lucy DeMeschines = Reginald Bacon
121 Richard Bacon
122 Sir Robert Bacon
123 Sir Thomas Bacon
124 Sir Henry Bacon
125 Sir Henry Bacon
126 Sir Roger Bacon
127 Beatrice Bacon = William Thorp
128 William Thorp
129 John Thorp
130 Mary (Margery) = John Bacon
131 Edmund Bacon
132 John Bacon
133 Thomas Bacon
134 John Bacon
135 Michael Bacon
136 Michael Bacon
137 Daniel Bacon
138 John Bacon
139 Abigail Bacon
140 Mary Reed
141 Lt. Daniel Burbank
142 Mag. Daniel Burbank
143 Daniel M. Burbank
144 Mary L. Burbank = Henry L. Marble
145 Henry L. Marble Jr.
146 Sarah Marble = Andrew Stewart
147 Mary Stewart = Davis A. Orgill
148 Curtis A. Orgill
149 Paul M. Orgill

Curtis Orgill <punapaluni@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>

Joe,

I have looked at your home page & found it very interesting, as I would also like to establish a database back to Adam. My link is believed to be through the Duke of Berry (1686 - 1714 - child of Louis de France = Mary Anne of Bavaria m. 1680) - I have yet to prove the link back to him.

What I havn't managed so far is to find any on line GEDCOM files for this line (I have a few generations of French Kings, then come to a dead end). I've also only been able to find text files of biblical genealogy.

Are your GEDCOM files available for download anywhere? I had a look around your site, and all I could find were database access forms to them.

Keith Wood

e-mail:

Home: keithw@mistral.co.ukjorgill
Work: KEITH@epid.eurotherm.co.uk
www: http://www3.mistral.co.uk/keithw/ (updated 4-Nov-96)

keith wood <keithw@mistral.co.uk>

Subject: Ilus

Hello,

I would like to know why we are having the different information about the certain lineage between Darda and Primas (Priam) which I put your and mine source below:
-------------------------
Your source:

25.Darda
26.Erichtonios
27.Jlos Mar. Eurydike
28.Iaomadon
29.PRIMAS, King of Troy
-----------------------------------
My source:

25.Dardanus (Darda) md Batea (Batea Asia) Princess
| b. 1770 B.C. King of Acadia $ Troy 1449 B.C.
26.Erichthonius md Astyoche (Astvocho) dau.of Simios
| King of Troy in 1374 B.C.
27.Tross(Tros) md Callirhoe
|
28.Ilus md Eurydice(Eurydike)
| d. abt 1281
29.Laomedon of Troy md Strymo (Placia)
| reign abt 1281 B.C.
30.Priam md Hecuba daughter of Dymas the King of Phrygia
------------------------

Hope you can tell what souce you are getting from.
-----------------

Thanks,

Jay Thexton of Fremont
Jay Thexton <jeariel@earthlink.net>

Subject: Geneology

Dear Joe,

Hello! My name is Christopher Olson and I have run across your page while doing my own research. I appreciated having your outline to compare against as I researched my own tree. I do have some points to mention, though.

1) Item 27 identifies "Jlos Mar. Eurydike." I have found in several old souces the marriage of Ilus to Eurydice. I know this is a small difference, but thought you might be interested.

2) Your page shows a blank line-space between Items 26 and 27. Although maybe unitentional, I have several source that indicate Ilus's father was Tros (the person who changed his city's name to Troy, from his Grandfather's naming of Dardania -- his grandfather being Dardanus who married Batia, daughter of Teucer). Tros was Erichthonius's son. This generation is missing from your listed lineage.

3) I have taken my lineage back to Dardanus (Tecucer via marriage to Batia, his daughter). However, my sources to date either fail to indicate who his parents were or list them as Zeus and Electra, daughter of Atlas. Well, I'ld have a poke in the eye with a sharp stick before adding Zeus to my family tree; I would have a hard time keeping a straight face when showing it to others. So, I have to ask how you got from DARDA, son of Zarah and grandson of Judah (from the Bible) to DARDANUS (from other ancient sources)? I would like to believe them to be one-in-the same; however, I need documentation. My biblical sources do not identify any children of Darda to overlap my lineages built back to Dardanus, and my souces for Dardanus are obviously not going to overlap with any Bible I'm familiar with. Your assistance and information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Sincerely,
Christopher Olson

Ryan and Christopher <COandRM@cris.com>
USA -

Subject: Re: correction

> Ok...well so where is that documented?
> so I have reason to believe your sources
> above the original reasearch (of which
> I have no documentation)?

where is it documented!!
can you not follow the links I've provided?
the whole genealogy is on-line!
just click on the people's names!

> > hi,
> > i think there's still some misunderstanding.
> > the thing about Hadwig marrying Hugh the Great of Neustria
> > is that it blows up your descent from Charlemagne.
> > have another look at my page - I've revised the note.
> > - mark
Mark Humphrys <Mark.Humphrys@cl.cam.ac.uk>
UK -

> I've made the correction you suggested and mentioned your
> page in appreciation. You may want to modify the wording of my
> error, since I changed it.

hi, i think there's still some misunderstanding.
the thing about Hadwig marrying Hugh the Great of Neustria
is that it blows up your descent from Charlemagne.
have another look at my page - I've revised the note.
- mark
Mark Humphrys <Mark.Humphrys@cl.cam.ac.uk>
UK -

> You have a cool page!!! I'm going to link to it if you
> don't mind from my "adam" page.

sure - go ahead.
though you can see I'm not a fan of Descents from Adam!
they simply aren't history.

anyway, about the historical bit of your descent,
I'm not sure if you got my message a few days ago.
You have Hadwig marrying the wrong Hugh the Great.
see links.html

You can still get a descent from Charlemagne though.
Just go to links.html and click on
Hugh the Great of Vermandois and Rohese
and follow their parents upwards.

> > FYI, my correction of your Descent from Adam
> > (about Hadwig, dau of Henry I the Fowler, Holy Roman Emperor)
> > has moved to:
> > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/mh10006/FamTree/links.html
Mark Humphrys <Mark.Humphrys@cl.cam.ac.uk>
UK -

FYI, my correction of your Descent from Adam (about Hadwig, dau of Henry I the Fowler, Holy Roman Emperor) has moved to:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/mh10006/FamTree/links.html

Mark Humphrys
Research Student
University of Cambridge, Computer Laboratory
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/mh10006/FamTree/
Mark Humphrys <Mark.Humphrys@cl.cam.ac.uk>
UK -

Subject: your Descent from Adam page

Hi there,

Came across your Descent from Adam page.
You're wrong about who Hadwig
(dau of Henry I the Fowler, Holy Roman Emperor)
married - full details including hyperlinks
are on my page:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/mh10006/FamTree/

You can still get a descent from Rohese
(dau of Henry I of England) to Charlemagne though.
Just click on her name on my page and follow
the links upwards.

Beyond Charlemagne I'm afraid your tree
isn't properly substantiated.
It's possible that someday we'll get a substantiated line
back to classical times, but we don't have one yet.
And obviously we'll never have a descent from Adam
since no such character ever existed.
You may not like what I say about
"Descents from Adam" on my page.

Anyway, good luck with the historical parts of it!
Sincerely,

Mark Humphrys
Research Student
University of Cambridge, Computer Laboratory

Mark Humphrys <Mark.Humphrys@cl.cam.ac.uk>
UK -

Subject: back to adam

hi i'm going to read every word. i would be happy just to gind a few lost irishmen.

bye,eve
patricia-mcnamee <pdm831@startext.net>
USA -

Hey, Joe! I thought you might be interested... I made my own Web Page called Adam to Alex. It's at:

http://members.aol.com/bigfluffe/a2a.html

Hope you like it!! : )
Alex M <BigFluffE@aol.com>
USA -

Having read The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail, I find this list
facinating - but there is just not enough to satiate!
Is the any more info on how this list was complied?
How do you make the link between Dagobert II and Genebald, Duke of East Frank?

Very interesting though.
Thanks,
davidk@mediakids.co.nz
David Keller <davidk@mediakids.co.nz>
New Zealand -

Subject: very interested

Your site presents me with two questions. First, where does your
geneology branch off from the kings of Israel, Saul, David, etc.?
And secondly, do you have data on the knights Templar, who played a
part in bringing Christianity's home base to France?

Thank you,
John Leicmon
propos@walrus.com
John Leicmon <propos@walrus.com>
USA -

Dear Joe, Do you have any info on the pomeroys since FMP is my great great grandfather.

Thank you
Graeme Pomeroy Justice
Cobb Milner <GideonRidge@SkyBest.Com>
USA -

I'm one of the many descendants of Eltweed. Have visited the Pommerai
roots in France, the ruins of castle near Totnes, etc. We are an
intersting group of folk. Lynn in Shreveport, LA
Lynn R. Pomeroy, Jr. <hermes@prysm.net>
Shreveport, LA USA -

I found your page to be very interesting. We share the same ancient
ancestry, but where your line continues through Neowig after Clodion in 448,
I am descended through another son, named Sigmerius. I was wondering if their
are any references on the Cimmerian people. If so please respond and I would
be very appreciative.
Maurice16@aol.com <Maurice16@aol.com>
USA -

I'm very sorry I did not respond sooner, but the last few weeks of this school thing are just killing me.. Anyway, my aunt does alot of this geneology work on my mother's side. (being that she's her sister.) She got back to Clodius II with her research, and I felt the urge (it was a complete and utter impulse) to look him up and see what he was about. Anyway, when I did a Webcrawler search through America Online, your Webpage came up. I was very excited. I created my own Webpage about it, and if you wish to see exactly how I can trace it, it's at http://members.aol.com/bigfluffe/a2a.html (The numbering is a bit jumbled, but that's okay)

It turns out that our lines split after Dagobert, Duke of Franks (317). He apparently had two sons, Clodomir V (Your line) and Genebald (mine). Interestingly enough, our lines cross again at Ausbertus / Ausbert (520-570), and continue on together until Charlemagne, who had two sons. Louis De Debonaire, King of the Franks, whose line your tree follows, and his bastard son, Hugo, the Holy Roman Emperor, from which my lineage sprung.

Well, I hope this has been somewhat informative, and I hope to hear from you again. And yes, please send me the information you have... I think my aunt would find it very fascinating. Thanks again!
Alexander Metternich <BigFluffE@aol.com>
USA -

Hello, Joe.

I am a teenager from New York, and was researching my geneology. The farthest back I could go was to Clodius II, so I went online to research him, and found your page. Thank you so much! God Bless

Ale M. <BigFluffE@aol.com>
New York, NY USA -

Hope you all enjoy the comments on my Joe to Adam page that
I'm sharing with you. I wish I had the time
to check out all of the comments, but 6 kids
and 2 jobs, kind of keep me running.

Thanks you all for emailing me

Joe Orgill