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Welcome to the World Wide Orgill home page!
My name is Joe Orgill, I live in Salt Lake City, Utah and have always had an interest in genealogy. Here is a picture of me and my family (Christmas, 1999). Below is my own family group sheet.This started out as my own genealogy and has branched out to Orgill's worldwide. Send me your Orgill, Argyle genealogy, I will try to post it. GED preferred (GED is a common format for sharing geanealogy, it is an output file type for common genealogy programs such as PAF (Personal Ancestral File). Email me for questions on how to get them. If you leave comments on the guest page, email me also. I may not notice it immediately.If you are an ORGILL/ARGYLE, etc please, sign the guestbook above .
New LDS Genealogical Web SITE now up!!!
There
are over 36 million names in this new site comprising England, North America,
Northern Europe, archives. You can verify my genealogy and check yours.
Here is the general link
Geneanet (Genealogical Database Network) and it's Orgill references
Joseph Orgill Jr. "birth certificate": parish entry
Nephi Orgill (see Eugene Orgill). "birth certificate": parish entry
The following was submitted by Carole P. Orgell-Rosen (COrgell@aol.com). Carole is also an "Orgill" but uses one of the early spellings of the Orgill name. Her professional background is a degree ( Law and History) from Oxford University. My deepest gratitude goes to Carole for her continual input to the larger Orgill family genealogy. The notes below gives more credence to the family "story" I've heard my whole life, that the Orgill's trace back to the Norman's from Normandy, France, arriving in England as part of the Norman invasion (1066) described below .
| YEAR | History of Derby (Derbyshire) |
|---|---|
| AC55. | Derby supposed to have been a place of consequence prior to the roman invasion |
| AD.400 | Derby was a place of importance under the Saxon dynasty |
| 874 | Derby given by Danes to Ceonwulf |
| Derby constituted the metropolis of the County by Alfred
Halfdene’s forces wintered here. |
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| 880 | Alfred settled a colony of Danes at Derby, after their defeat. |
| 918 | During the long and very blood contest between Danes and Saxons, Derby frequently changed its master. The Danes mainly inhabited the North of England and the Saxons the South. They approached each other through Derby, which often experienced robbery and butchery. Alfred, the Great, left several children. His son, Edward the Elder, mounted the throne in 900. A daughter, Aethelfleda, married Ethelred, Earl of Mercia. They resided at Tamworth Castle. She was said to have suffered such pains and danger during child-birth that she vowed to renounce the attentions of her husband, and devote herself to arms. She never conceived a child again, and even after the death of her husband (908) she never took a man again. She was very close to her brother, Edward, who was at war with the Danes from 910-922. Whilst the Danes were in possession of Derby in 918, she mustered her forces and marched into Derby, at the crossing now St Mary’s bridge) attacked the Danes and totally routed them. Most of the Danes were put to the sword others made it to the Castle which was itself soon over taken. |
| 930 | The Danes again took possession of Derby ( and four other towns)-taken by King Edmund. |
| 1040 | The town given a Charter by Edward the Confessor.Records show that there were 243 resident burgesses in Derby. |
| 1066 | England invaded by William Duke of Normandy. Derby was drained of its
men, most of whom were killed in the battle of Hastings.
Property of Earl of Mercia confiscated . William I given (with a very considerable rent-roll) to William Peveral, a Norman Captain (and the illegitimate son of the Conqueror) the privileges were augmented by a new Charter. 140 burgesses of whom 40 were minors were recorded. |
| 1100 | Constituted by Charter - a corporate town.
Fee-farm of Derby was granted to Ranulph Gernon, Earl of Chester by Henry I. |
| 1137 | Monastery of St Helen founded |
Edmund Orgill (1198-1211) is a few years after the invasion of England by Duke William (the Conqueror) of Normandy in 1066, beginning a three century Norman occupation of England, Wales, and Scotland, the Norman name probably varying in spelling from one of the following, Orgell, Orgel, l'Orgil. Later spellings (1305): Orgouyl, (1305) Orgul, and perhaps in old French: Orgueil (pride).
My Orgill line currently goes back to 17th century, so there is a 300 year gap that I would like to fill in. My line goes back to Church Gresley in the Derbyshire region.
-Joe Orgill
Orgel, Orgill Edmund
L’orgil 1198-1211: Norman French (reference from the early Charters of
Cathedral Church of St. Paul, London) Walter Orgouyl 1297 (reference form
Minister’s accounts of the Earldom of Cornwall) Gerald Orgul 1305 (reference
from Calendar of early Mayor’s Court Rolls) The name Orgueil is old French
The areas your ancestors came from are very near to each other in South Derbyshire in fact this corner of Derbyshire is where three counties meet - Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, And eicestershire - runs from the barren heights of the Peak district east and South over rolling farmlands which have been scarred by the Industrial revolution. The Colliery tips that used to do the landscape are now mainly grassed over. To the South lie the open heathlands of what was once the thickly wooded Charnweed Forest.
Derbyshire is a county of contrasts its breath taking Hills, which are in reality small mountains, its Dales, farmlands, China clay and small industrial pockets outside its towns. Derby being famous of course for its china and the Rolls Royce Factory. In the north of the County the Well dressing custom continues.
Carole continues with comments about Orgill birthplaces such as Hartshorne, Church Gresley, and Swadlincote.
Many of our Orgill's came from Church Gresley, one of two origins: Church Gresley and Castle Gresley.
Gresley (ez) is (Church Gresley is pronounced "choch greezley" in Derbyshire dialect) - in Doomesday book it is Grislaia
Gresley 1230, Grreselle - Old English (OE) Greosnnleah which means gravely Leah. OE Greosn means - Gravel Pebble.
Castle and Church Gresley were both built by the Gresley Family, Lords of the two who derived their pedigree from William ,Son of Nigel, first named de Gresley - a flourishing family from the Norman conquest. The Castle is long gone as is the Monastery of St George. A church built on the Monastery site of the 12th C. priory remains. The Gresley family are said to be the only family in Derbyshire which kept its lands from Doomesday Book to the 20th C If they did it may be that somewhere in them is an Orgill reference.
Hartshorne :- Heorteshorne ,Herteshoorne 1198 - the name means Stags headland - probably the Horne in the sense of a hill - a projecting spur of land - but I remember seeing deer and staggs whilst walking there as a child.
Swadlincote ( locally called Swad) :- in Doomesday Book Swardiiingescote or Suarrrrtlincot it did not become Swadlincote until 1309.
It may be that you will need these 'old' names when researching and its going to be quite difficult to find anything prior to the 16th C. but the place names and any titled family may very useful "
